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 Post subject: February 2008
PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 5:38 pm 
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Hi does anyone remember the portland dance hall the bottom of Abotsford Place the Marquee on Paisley rd? Joe Dollan Dickie Rock my favourite i came from Cavendish St. The Lynches, mccullochs, Muirs, Irvins, Warrens, McSporans, Shevlins, Mullhollands, Dalleys, Huttons, Glennys shop Mary Purries best sweet shop in gorbals great memories of the gorbals, Pauline.

Submitted by: Pauline Boyce
Glasgow, Scotland
29/02/08
Email: pauline.boyce@ntlworld.com
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FAO: Glasgow biddy, Hello dear, Thank you for your very nice wee message, and your story of where you got your name. I enjoy reading wee letters from people like yourself who talk my kinda talk, and not gibberish. Take care biddy. AGNES.

Submitted by: Agnes
Glasgow, Scotland
29/02/08
Email: agnesherrity@hotmail.co.uk
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To Tam Craig, Thank you for your message pal, its good to get a wee note that you can read without getting a headace, you are like a breath of fresh air. Kindest Regards Tam. Agnes.

Submitted by: Agnes
Glasgow, Scotland
29/02/08
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FAO TEN QUID, I will take on board your comments, and your ideas. Then I will tell you what I have decided to do with them, I'm sure you will be really excited waiting for my answer. AGNES

Submitted by: Agnes
Glasgow, Scotland
29/02/08
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TO PROVE I DO HAVE A STRONG SCOTTISH SENSE OF HUMOUR HERE IS A WEE SCOTTISH JOKE: > What about the Scotsman who lost his testicles in a motorcycle accident? The surgeon re-attached them with Bostik.>

Submitted by: Auld Glasgow Biddy
Brighton, England
29/02/08
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Thank you Rita Moffat for info - good site, Mitchell Library! I lived one up, 302 Moffat St, opp Hamilton's milk. I am 62 now, young brother David 60. Went to St Francis, then Holyrood. Neighbours up same close or nearby- May Meechan, Ann Kerr, Mary Thomson, Ann Goldie, Agnes Ramsay. My cousins Jackie and Hughie Cameron went to Hayfield, lived next door to me, then moved to Mathieson St. Thanks again for you help, Anne Smith.

Submitted by: Anne Smith
Glasgow, Scotland
29/02/08
Email: gorbalsmithtouring-@yahoo.co.uk
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Rita, I lived with my Granny in Moffat Street during the first year of The War. She had the wee sweetie shop next to the Pend and Dick Barton's Pub Photo is available on The Mitchell Library web site). I had just started in St Francis Infant's School. I remember "The Reception House" although I had always remembered it as "The Orphanage" Ah wis five, whit wid Ah know? Geeza break! There was an occassion when a soldier came home on compassionate leave (Someone had tipped him off that his wife had a "Fancy Man"). She wouldn't open the door to him, so he placed the muzzle of his rifle against the single end door and fired. Across the road the matron of The reception House was taking her coat off. She had just placed her new hat on the table when a .303 bullet whipped it away. Fortunately the only damage was a hole in the new hat. There were Polis all over the place, but no one was injured. My 15 year old Auntie Cinny worked in that Pend at the time, and lost the tip of one of her fingers in a sausage making machine, so there must have been a meat business in the back of that Pend. I had a wee pal in the tenement to the left of The Reception House. His name was Haggerty, his father was a night watchman and had two huge Dalmations. The nearby TWOMAX factory was still intact at that time, the Germans hadn't blasted it yet.

Submitted by: Davie Graham
Edmonton, Canada
29/02/08
Email: mcscrum@telus.net
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FAO Gerry Gracie - your name sounds familiar. Did you go by a nickname? Who did you used to hang around with?

Submitted by: Tina Kerr (Shields)
Point Pleasant, USA
29/02/08
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Just read some of the Glesga jokes and thought of this auld Chick Murray one hope you enjoy it. Man walkin doon the street wi he's dug, bumps intae he's pal, and the pal ask him where he's goin, tae the Vets tae get the dug put doon, Pal asks is he mad and he says "Well he's no too pleased" Ha Ha always remember enjoy yer sel's Jimmy G

Submitted by: Jimmy G Sarnia
Ont, Canada
29/02/08
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I was born in 209 Camden St 1933. Trying to trace James Paton lived in Camden St moved to Calder St, then Kings Park. Had a son James and daughter Linda.

Submitted by: Jimmy Easson
Preston, England
29/02/08
Email: eassj@aol.com
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FAO Pat Holland, I knew Tam Marshall an i remember the night he jumped in the clyde, i was at greasy peters with Mick Strain, Wadgy, when we heard. I totally agree with all your comments, i have been saying the same things as you and being slaughtered by people who write in but cant be traced with their false emails. Thanks for making me feel better and someone out there is on the same wave length as myself. take care Big Tam

Submitted by: Tam Craig
Tollcross, Glasgow
29/02/08
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John Currie got the photo of u and the twins now i can remember yer dad n mum in ther uniform n yer dad im sure looked just like you glasses as well tall thin i know its more than 60yrs.ago but when i look at u i can see him am i remotely close? when u were in china were u a missionary? great too see a boy from the gorbals doing that kind of work john u and your family are the kind of people the world needs more of and i wish u and the family lots of love n happiness and may your god be with you ten quid

Submitted by: Ten Quid
Oz
29/02/08
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Agnes if u learn ti read u could easily figure oot ma name instead of gettin yer nickers in a twist n am no gonna send yi an e-mail yi kin thro yer insults at me awe yi want but leave others oot o it yi could be a bloke fer awe a no n this scotchasie riten drives u crackers so come own gi cyberspace a gid ole beltin becuase when its awe said n done we are only talkin ti a screen so agie calm doon, relax enjoy life n thro yer computer oot the windi n keep a firm grip o it when yi do!

Submitted by: Ten Quid
Oz
29/02/08
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Hi what a great site just wondered if anyone new me our my family i had a brother called andy who sadly passed away 17 years ago and ive got a sister alison stayed in stirlingfauld place, norfolk court, queen elizabeth square stayed in the gorbals from the 1970s to the 1990s. I lived with my gran and granda in stirlingfauld place, my uncle andra also stayed there if anyone rembers me or my family please get in touch. ps my mother alice bonnar still stays in the gorbals at eglinton court

Submitted by: Gerry Gracie
East Kilbride, South Lanarkshire
28/02/08
Email: gerrygracie@blueyonder.co.uk
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For Ann-Marie Coyne, I am 38 and went to Bosco also. I remember Marlene. What happened to her? Do you know any of my old friends Cathy Cunningham, Angie Corcoran or Claudette Alexander? I know the old tree you are talking about at Richmond park. I think it was called devils tree because it was so black and creepy looking. Did you know the Higgins twins?

Submitted by: Tina Kerr (Shields)
Point Pleasant, USA
28/02/08
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I amazed at the existance of this site, I once lived in Florence street, I am positive it has now gone, but I had many happy times there, as youngsters we all seemed to go around with over sized shoes and dirty faces, with a peace in jam in our hand. I remember one particular family the flannagans, they lived near Eglinton street, I believe it was called Peebles Street, there were eight children male and female in the one room sleeping together, it was tough in those days. As a boy we went to Rouken Glen or we would walk to the Glasgow green, that was particularly good at the "Fair fortnight" it was called the shows. Finding this site has poured back many memories of the poor Gorbals way of life, the kind people, who were always there for you, it was indeed a unique place to live, it was an exciting place to live, everyday was packed for me, after school, going for the messages! that was something, i had to carry pints of milk from the dairy and a couple of shopping bags from Curleys all at the same time, but Sat was special, going to the greens in the morning, then off to the Palace in the afternoon show with your entrance money being a "jellie jar" does anyone remember this? Sadly these days are gone but will live in my heart forever, finding this site has made my day truly happy, keep communicating and let the Gorbals live for ever, I hope you will permit me to drop in now and again, I would say this its nice to see people put their name at the end instead of nom de plumes, I am beginning to get my old Gorbals phrases out again, excuse me but Gorbals folk were always good and it would be nice to know who you are because who knows I might recognise you, this hopefully is not too long, I look forward with gentle excitement to seeing my letter in the great Gorbals site. My humble blessings to everyone. Father Peter Devlin.

Submitted by: Father Peter Devlin
Stirling, Scotland
28/02/08
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Alec Bowie Great jokes keep them comming. Had a wee giggle to my self when I read them and my grandson gave me funny looks and raised eyebrows. But it is good to keep them wondering if your sane or not. Hate, hate when the grandweans speak jist that we bit slower to you. I am neither daft not deaf! Cheers

Submitted by: Wee Wummin Too
Glasgow, Scotland
28/02/08
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Anne Me again. Answered your last posting but forgot to mention that you will get a good photo of Moffat Street Reception House if you google VIRTUAL MITCHELL THEN GO IN TO MOFFAT STREET. IT WAS ALMOST STRAIGHT ACROSS FROM THE PEND-AND EVERYONE WAS TOLD IF THEY WERE BAD THE WOULD END UP IN THAT BUILDING. Very handsome white building with a wee garden to the front and railings all around. Spooked me a bit when I first saw the photo a couple of years back. Perhaps it was for children-maybe orphans?? Belonging to Glasgow Coporation? Anyone help here? You might think I am having you on with my name Moffat-my mother came from a large family of Moffats. So many in fact that the joke used to be that they named the street after us. Cheers Rita

Submitted by: Rita Moffat
Glasgow, Scotland
28/02/08
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Hi Anne from Moffat St. I am trying to place you. I was born in McNeil Street-one up. Directly above the Pig and Whistle. I am a lot older than you... I lived in 157 Moffat St and 147 Moffat St from around 1961 to 1969 That was first/2nd right if you walked around from Hayfield St. I have two boys- well hardly boys now! Their names are Jim Higgins and Paul Higgins. Both a year or two older than you and they went to Hayfield St School. Names I remember were the Shanklands, The Samsons, Pauline and Mary Ferguson May Mundy. Martin Hawkins; Lesley Hawkins; John, Robert and David Hawkins. The latter are all children of my cousins. Good Luck-hope people who knew you get in contact.

Submitted by: Rita Moffat
Glasgow, Scotland
28/02/08
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To Alan Sangster Who are you you ask? well, only you can answer that. You are who you choose to be, regardless of where you were born, brought up or live now. So if you want to be Chinese, Irish, Scottish it is up to you. We are who we become. We all came from the same parents didn't we????

Submitted by: Jean Fairie
Melbourne, Australia
27/02/08
Email: gorbals@aapt.net.au
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I've been trying to find my first love Donna McKenzie from the high flats in the south side, Donna was the most popular lass working in the Trading Post on the Clyde, last I heard she was married with a wee baby, back in the 90's, I often think of her and would love to know that she is doing well, please passs on my regards.

Submitted by: Thomas Devlin
Cumbernauld, Glasgow
27/02/08
Email: t.devlin199@btinternet.com
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Further to my entry on the 25th of feb. My brother archie birrell passed away peacefully on tuesday evening at crosshouse hospital irvine, may he rest in peace.

Submitted by: Alexander Birrell
Glasgow, South Lanarkshire
27/02/08
Email: axbirrell@gmail.com
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This if for Maureen Whyte. Isn't Geelong, Victoria in Australia, not the USA? I love geography and this does not look like a USA address. Just checked it out on Google and it confirms this message...

Submitted by: Gorbals Gal
USA
27/02/08
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Hi, Mates having 25th Anniversary soon. Does anyone have a picture of The Cleland Pub from way back then, thats where the lovebirds met and would be a nice surprise present. Just a copy is fine of course.

Submitted by: Paul
Kings Park, Glasgow
27/02/08
Email: paul@floak.com
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Hello Willie Hendry Chick Burkes wife here I will get touch shortly by e-mail still got your wedding photo

Submitted by: Rita Burke
Glasgow, Scotland
27/02/08
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Auld Glasgow Biddy SCOTTICISM means a doctrine=theory=system like Catholicism in the catholic church no bad fer an egnostic ten quid

Submitted by: Ten Quid
Oz
27/02/08
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Neilly, Nae herm meant wisnae meanin' hygeine wis in doubt anywye whit would a know aboot meat? it either came oot a tin or wis aw scrunched up an' cawed mince, mind ye thinkin' aboot it kinda a long road fur a short cut sendin' a coo aw the wye fae here tae get chased aboot wi some guy on a cuddy throwin' ropes wi bloody big ba's on the end o' it at it, gie'n it the message, pappin' it on a boat then endin' up in Waddell St; in the soo side in the '40's come oan geese a break.

Submitted by: Anonymous
27/02/08
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FAO alan sangster so what if you were born in hong kong you were only there a couple of weeks. You are a scotsman alan remember a dog can be born in a stable it doesnt make it a horse good luck to you alan

Submitted by: Pat Holland
London, England
26/02/08
Email: patlyonsholland@hotmail.co.uk
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Ive just read colins book it brought back memories and i enjoyed it but i feel i should clear up some of the things he is mistaken about firstly i went to bonnies five years before you and big scud was the deputy head not a teacher unless he got religated, also the shop was the shand not the shannie it was part of the ucbs [used cakes burnt scones] and the guy who threw himself in the clyde after giving his dole card to his bird saying im signing off was called tam marshal he was mixed race and came from florence street i know because i was there as i say i enjoyed the book but it came across to me like hearsay as if you were not really there but heard all this from other people but if your making money from it then fair play to you i just wish id thought of it good luck mate

Submitted by: Pat Holland
London, England
26/02/08
Email: patlyonsholland@hotmail.co.uk
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Angela Coyne do you remember the witches pot it was near the devils tree it was some kind of big drain but us kids it looked like a big witches pot the tings we remember thats why i love this site it takes you back we thought richmond park was the counrty side and the ducksy pond was a loch pat

Submitted by: Pat Roberts
London, England
26/02/08
Email: patspark@hotmail.com
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The devils tree i remember it well does any buddy remember the wee boy that drowned and was brought out there by the police and benny the wee man in the boat what was bennys job? Sorry to bring bad memories to the site but its the first thing i thought when i heard mention of the devils tree. I think i was about 8 or 9 then 40 years ago hope to come back with some fun memories soon pat

Submitted by: Pat Roberts
London, England
26/02/08
Email: patspark@hotmail.com
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Just wondered if anyone on this board remembers Pat McConville who came from Moffat St.

Submitted by: Terri
Glasgow, Scotland
26/02/08
Email: terrimccue1@aol.com
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FAO: Agnes (Herrity) - Hi Agnes, my real name is Elizabeth and I have been called Biddy for generations! I call myself Auld Biddy as that's the nickname given by my grandfather and it's stuck. As far as Ten Quid is concerned, we are two completely different people with one thing in common - that is that we like to read the Queen's English! For Mick Connolly - nice to be nice and thank you for the comments. Good luck with your career and I do hope that you manage to keep a few youngsters on the straight and narrow!

Submitted by: Auld Glasgow Biddy
Brighton, England
26/02/08
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Alex bowie your jokes are worse than mine ha ha, i couldnt believe it, you still reading the sunday post? Scotsman wearin a kilt, an english punter lifts it up and says oh thats gruesome, jock says lift it again an it might growsomemere. Munro your a blether meet me in the toon see if you recognise me blind date i will be in central station every sat at 3 oclock having a pint Billy

Submitted by: B Malcolm
Easterhouse, Glasgow
26/02/08
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FAO Agnes herrity well done agnes i completely agree with you i have had similar probs with people imitating others cause they are cowardly, good luck agnes look forward to reading your mail in future Big Tam Craig

Submitted by: Tam Craig
Tollcross, Glasgow
26/02/08
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Bridie Heh you took me back a few hundred years! Dancing daft, I went to the Barrowland and the Locarno. Barrowland and Jivers corner-lundy hop and the BOOGIE.... wee short birlie skirt and flashing my white knickers. Oh it was sooo exciting the music the attention. Must have been the Panstick! The Locarno seemed a bit more sophisticated some how. The moonie a close up dance- wan two and then stoap. Spent ages starching all the petticoats for the sticky oot frocks. Butterflies in my belly when you were asked "wher is it ye stie then" A raised eyebrow from the would be lumber when it wiz too faur to walk.... Oh aye those were the days my friends-we realy did think they would never end. Wee Wummin Too

Submitted by: Wee Wummin Too
26/02/08
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Hi, im looking to here from anyone who new my dad willie whyte he was a boxer in the fifties he was also given a george medal in 1944. Thanks

Submitted by: Maureen O'Neil Whtye
Geelong Victoria, USA
26/02/08
Email: gizzmo-1@hotmail.com
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Hello All: Does anyone remember the pubs owned by John & Martha Deane in the 1920-1930's. Helping Granddaughter Martha track down her family. Thanks.

Submitted by: Jeanne Gale
Swansea MA, USA
25/02/08
Email: Jswanalke12@aol.com
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Just to let friends of my brother archie birrell know that he is seriously ill, and is in crosshouse hospital in irvine, he was born in the gorbals and moved to castemilk when he got married, he came back from usa, to stay in irvine, where his wife margaret died, so anybody who knows him i would appreciate if they would say a little prayer for him, thank you

Submitted by: Alexander Birrell
Glasgow, South Lanarkshire
25/02/08
Email: axbirrell@gmail.com
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2008-Feb-24th To: s.malone.26@btinternet.com

Hiya Sharon! I am a Liddell -- Lynne Margaret Liddell -- born April 24, 1948 in Toronto, Ontario (just for info, I use my middle name, Margaret, shortened to Meg). I am having a difficult time finding my roots, because my family became estranged from one another and my sister and I ended up in foster care at a young age. At that time, we were living in St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada. I am now almost 60, and thought it would be interesting to find out about our family. Anyway, my Dad was Harold Leonard Liddell, of Toronto Ontario, and his Mum Matilda Liddell. I'm not sure of her maiden name, but have a small Victorian vase that has been handed down to us with her name engraved in the glass Matilda and has Collingwood underneath her first name, so not sure whether it's the town of Collingwood, Ontario, Canada or her last name and the year 1917 engraved underneath Collingwood. We have almost no history of Matilda or her family, but remember meeting her half-sister, Jessie, or she could have been my Gran's stepsister (not sure which), and remember her well, when I was a little girl, about 10 years of age at the time leaving a fond impression. We're not sure where our Paternal Gran (Matilda) was born. We have no information on my Dad's father, a Liddell, and don't know his first name, and never met our Paternal grandad. All of our relatives have now passed over, and my sister and I are left. She is soon to be 59. My mother was born Kathleen Emma Marie Bowman, and her parents names were Hilda and Frank Bowman. They divorced in the '30's, and my Gran (Hilda) later married a man Frank Cox approximately 1940 or '41, and he adopted my my mother, and she then had a surname of Cox before she married my Dad, Harold Liddell, (known to everyone as Hal). My Maternal Gran, Hilda, family name was Lorenz. Both Maternal granparents are from Northern Ontario, Canada. I have a few old pictures of them all, from my parents' wedding day January 3, 1948. Other than that, not much information, and no other pictures. Kinda difficult, eh? when we're older now, and foster kids from the '60's, so long ago. And of course, many changes during our life journey, and have families of our own now. Thank you for your time, and wishing you "good luck" with your searches too. Sincerely, Meg Coyle (Liddell)

Submitted by: Meg Coyle (nee Liddell)
Vancouver, Canada
25/02/08
Email: meggie_lyn98@yahoo.com
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Three questions for Billy from Easterhouse....what happened to mars? you still got the spats shoes?....you could also drop me an email let me know how your doin!

Submitted by: Alan Munro
Glasgow, Scotland
24/02/08
Email: alangmunro@hotmail.com
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Would like to hear from anyone who worked in j.w.galloways factory in clelland street in the 60's and 70's neilly mac?

Submitted by: Neil MacLean
Glasgow, Scotland
24/02/08
Email: neil@neilmaclean.wanadoo.co.uk
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In answer to anonymous holmes's sausages were as good as any sausage in glasgow at the time he could afford to sell cheap due to his turn over we all used to sit about with our rolls and sausage on a cold winters morning for breakfast. he also imported good argentine beef which was reared from good scottish stock we were visited by the health people and always passed with flying colors the shop was cleaned from top to bottom every night and it didn't seem to have done the unknown one any harm as he must be a fair old age. neilly the sausage boy

Submitted by: Neil MacLean
Glasgow, Scotland
24/02/08
Email: neil@neilmaclean.wanadoo.co.uk
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Hi John tried emailing you no reply anyway the photo was sent onto me by my brother (320 lawmoor street) and it brought back memories we looked like Angels with dirty faces and we were the best dressed kids in the street. looking at the photo on the front row left is my younger brother Bobby he is looking my way he died not long ago, i am the one centre same row dark jumper on i remember some of kids Eddy Cain back row also i may be wrong with the first name but i thought it was Agnes Peever back row looks like she has an eye patch on i also think Padgy Gallagher is in it. what one are you in the photo i remember the games we used to play kick the can, rounders, jump the high dykes and and hide and seek in the dunny made my fist bogey orange box and roller skate and who did not have a lucky midden? Then there was the man who came round in the horse and cart shouting Who likes candy i think it was a penny a ride. Sorry but i dont know who took the photo All the best Johnny Boyle

Submitted by: Johnny Boyle
Sydney, Australia
24/02/08
Email: johnboyle45@optusnet.com
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.au Hi to all you of The Gorbals Clan Just a chance that someone might remember NABURN STREET and any GRANTS that lived there, My Maw - Alexandrina Grant was born in 1916 in the street and had a sister Mabel, my Granda was WILLIAM GRANT and my Grandmaw was IRISH (from Sligo). I know it was a long time ago but maybe there is someone with a an old memory of then. They lived there until the early fifties (before it was knocked down in 1955) but I have no information at all about them. My Maw was also known as INA and in her first marriage, married a RICHARD RAHNN (or RHANN) around about the 1930's who had some business venture in New Zealand but apart from that I know nothing else. MABEL married ALEC ROBINSON and moved to somewhere on the Crown Street Estate. Any help would be terrif and I know that Gorbals memories go back a long way. Jim Miller (AKA - Th' Wee English B'stard).

Submitted by: Jim Miller
Essex, England
23/02/08
Email: jimmiller74@blueyonder.co.uk
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To ten quid and all the gorbals mob...here is a list i picked up while researching on the internet For The Real Gorbals Story book..enjoy! "Back" - when someone says they will see you "at the back of five" they mean roughly 5.15. There is no equivalent "front of five" for 4.45! "Ball's up on the slates" - plans have come apart. "Bite someone's ear" - long before Mike Tyson, this phrase was used to describe speaking nicely to someone to gain a favour. "Blue nose" - not someone who is feeling the cold but a supporter of Rangers football club (whose main team colour is blue). "Body swerve" - means to dodge or avoid something as in "The wife wanted me to go to see her mother but I managed to give it a body swerve". "Bubble" - means to weep, as in "What are you bubbling for?" Sometimes used to describe some who is sulking as in "Stick, bubbly!" "Bucket" - a good quantity of alcohol, as in "Her husband takes a right bucket!" "Check" - to look, often with astonishment, as in "Check the new jacket!" "Chin" - used as a verb, it can mean to go to someone to complain (perhaps sticking your chin out in the process). "Click" - establish a relationship with the opposite sex, as in "Jimmy was the only one with a click after the jigging" ("jiggin" is dancing). "Close" - not the verb to shut but the open entrance-way and common stair to a block of flats (tenements in Glasgow). In Edinburgh, it is applied to a narrow lane or passage from the main street. The word can also be applied to weather which is warm and muggy. "Desperate" - if someone says they are "desperate" they are trying to tell you that they are in urgent need of the toilet! "Don't act it" - don't behave in a deliberately misleading way, as in "If he says he didnae ken about it, he's acting it!" "Dot" - means to go somewhere quickly as in "I'll just dot into the paper shop". "Drawing in" - as in "The nights are drawing in" means that the days are getting shorter and darkness is falling earlier as we head into autumn and winter. "Duster" - as in "he went his duster" meaning that he worked hard. "Hammer" - if someone asks you to "Give the TV the hammer" don't take it literally - they just want you to switch it off! "Heavy" - in a bar, you may hear someone ask for "A pint of heavy" which is a heavier beer than lager and is roughly equivalent to the English "bitter" beer. "Export" is an even stronger and darker beer. Although originally brewed for sale abroad, it is nowadays found on draught in most public houses. "Hems" - not the stitched edge of a cloth, but if you "put the hems on" someone you have forced them to behave or restrained them as in "He couldnae go tae the pub, his wife put the hems on him." "Hen" - not a farmyard animal but a friendly way of addressing a girl or a woman, often when you don't know their name. For example "Can ye tell me when the next bus will be, hen?" "Jag" - in addition to the usual meaning of pierce, the word also can mean an injection as in "The doctor gave the kid a jag." Not to be confused with "The Jags" who are the Partick Thistle football (soccer) club. "Jotters" - not a school writing book but a worker's employment documentation which has come to mean the sack, as in "Ah goat ma jotters and signed on at the burroo" (the employment exchange). "Keys" - when said with thumbs raised, this is the traditional way in which children withdraw temporarily from a game, as in "I'm keys!" "Kilt" - if you hear someone in Glasgow say that "Ah wis nearly kilt" it has nothing to do with Highland dress but is the local pronunciation for "killed". "Knock" - a euphemism for stealing as in "Hughie knocked a motor car." "Lend" - no borrowing involved here. If you "take a lend" of someone you take advantage of their gullibility. "Lose the rag" - can mean to lose your temper. "Mask" - to "mask the tea" is not to hide it but to wait until it has infused. "Messages" - if someone is "going the messages" they are going to the local shops. "Mince" - while finely chopped minced beef is a popular dish in Scotland the word has also come to mean rubbish or nonsense as in "He was talking a load of mince." and someone who is as "thick as mince" is extremely stupid. "Miss yourself" - you missed having a good time as in "You missed yourself last night - we all got blootered." ("blootered" means "drunk"). "On the bell" - when someone says that they are "On the bell" or "It's my bell" it means that they acknowledging that it is their turn to buy the drinks. "On the Panel" - absent from work. The "panel" is also a Scots legal term meaning the accused in a criminal trial. "Piece" - a sandwich, which could be the classic "jeely piece" of bread and jam. "Plank" - nothing to do with wood, but if you plank something, you hide it somewhere safe so that it can be used at a later time. "Refreshment" - a well known euphemism for any alcoholic drink. It's like "Sauchiehall Street" - it is very busy (as in this Glasgow street, before the days of pedestrianisation). "Special" - used to describe a strong beer as in "McEwan's Special" "Scratcher" - another name for a bed as in "I couldnae get oot ma scratcher." "Shed" - the side or middle parting of the hair as in "Is my shed straight?" "Shy" - the throw-in from the touchline in a game of football (soccer). "Steaming" - one of the (many) words to describe someone who is drunk. "Supper" - not a meal at the end of the day but anything served with chipped potatoes in a fish and chip shop is a "supper". So haggis and chips served at lunchtime is a "Haggis supper." "Tank" - to beat the other team soundly as in "Scotland tanked Spain 48-0 in the rugby game today." "Waste of space" - describes someone who is proving to be worthless or useless. "Well on" - what happens when you have imbibed too much "refreshment" and become a bit drunk. "Winch" - this word is used to describe a romantic involvement with someone, as in "Are ye winchin?" The origins of this word come from "wench", the old fashioned word for woman.

Submitted by: The Real Colin MacFarlane
Glasgow & Ponty, UK
23/02/08
Email: colinmacuk@yahoo.com
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FAO John Currie thanx for the great photo of awe the weans at 320 lawmoor st. 2 o them were my young brothers the youngest one died 2 years ago the older one is here in oz n doin well i will respond by e-mail to u with some of my photos awera best and thanx a million it brought back great memories of were i came from and were i am now in life n i wonder honestly which is the best being young without a care in the world or gettin on n worryin about your own young. i think that photo gave me the true answer kay-sa-ra-sa-ra what has been has been - what will be will be! ten quid

Submitted by: Ten Quid
Oz
23/02/08
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Hi Colin and Ten Quid, as to Glasgow Sayings, my mother and Grannie were the wee champs with phrases like 'fur coat and nae drawers' meaning they were all show, 'Wid ye look at the time 10 o'cloak an' no a wean waashed' meaning running late, 'Dae ye waant a photie?' meaning you're staring at me, or'Dis yer mammy know ye're oot?' meaning You're jist a wean. and so many more.

Submitted by: Jean Fairie Melbourne, Australia 23/02/08
Email: gorbals@aapt.net.au To Wee Wummin who likes the Glesca Jokes While being interviewed for a job as a bus driver, a guy is asked: "What would you do if you had a rowdy passenger?" "I'd put him off at the next stop," he says. "Good. And what would you do if you couldn't get the fare?" "I'd take the first two weeks in August," he replies. Guy walks into bakers. " Is that an Apple Tart in the windae or a Meringue" Baker says " Naw ye wir right the first time.......It`s an Apple Tart. Two Glesca guys speaking at the time of second world war. " Jimmy whit wid you dae if the Germans bombed doon Sauchiehall st". " Oh quite simple Wullie......Ah wid bomb doon Hope st.".. Alex

Submitted by: Alex Bowie
Paisley, Scotland
22/02/08
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FAO 10 Quid. This is Agnes here. I would like to tell you, I have never or ever will send a message to the Gorbals site under another name, so don't take my name in vain by saying I might be Auld Biddy. I have no reason not to put my name to any letters I write. The one person who seems to be scared to put there real name and the end of there messages is you. I am not one of the people who hang by your every word, and believe all you say, not a chance. AGNES.

Submitted by: Agnes
Glasgow, Scotland
22/02/08
Email: agnesherrity@hotmail.co.uk
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To I. Cleary: Just saw your recent post and perhaps you can help. A friends of mine's parents: John and Martha Deane ran 2 pubs in the Gorbals, until 1930, He was originally from Ireland, but moved to 241 Calder St. Is there any old info out there on Pubs and who ran them? Thank you, Jeannie

Submitted by: Jeanne Gale
Swansea MA, USA
22/02/08
Email: Jswanlake12@aol.com
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My dad and mum were in the army and were stationed in Hong Kong, 9 weeks later I was taken to Scotland right into the gorbals where I was brought up for 18 years, I left and have stayed in Dublin ever since, no jokes please but I was born in Hong Kong, I dont have slanted eyes!! What am I? a gorbals man, chinese, irish, I have been in Dublin 34 years, my parents were from the Calton, Some will say I am chinese because I was born there, anyone got the real answer? On my passport I have British citizen, please dont say I am what I am or I am what I want to be, come on your gorbalites tell me. Alan

Submitted by: Alan Sangster
Dublin, Ireland
22/02/08
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A Munro - what happened to you old mate, I would like to meet up with you, do you ever go into the toon, I do on Sat mornings yer old mate Billy.

Submitted by: B Malcolm
Easterhouse, Glasgow
22/02/08
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Just found this site - great memories! I was born in Moffat St and lived there until 1963. Was always told if I didn't behave I would be put in a home, like the Reception House across the road. Does anyone remember anything about this place?

Submitted by: Anne
Glasgow, Scotland
21/02/08
Email: gorbalsmithtouring-@yahoo.co.uk
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Thanks to 'Auld Glasgow Biddy' for your encouragement after that post I put on for young Ryan. As I said I wasn't too sure whether to put it on but am glad I did. So thanks again and glad to read that you have done well in your life too. Great to see the site getting a bit more cheery again. Hello to my big sister Margaret Connolly from me Karen and the boys.

Submitted by: Mick Connolly
Glasgow, Scotland
21/02/08
Email: weemick@btinternet.com
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Does anyone remember the big tree just by the bowling club at richmond park? Think we called it the Devils Tree, everyone spat on it when they walked past, does anyone know why this came about??

Submitted by: Angela Coyne
Glasgow, Scotland
21/02/08
Email: dizzyangie@hotmail.co.uk
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To Anne Marie Ridge, i am 37, went to St Lukes then St Francis and Bosco, I knew Angela and Marleine, we went to Tracys Dancing at the same time, Marleine died a few years ago, think Angela is married with kids now. I remember Mr Kenney, got the belt a few times from him, and Mrs Gerard, and do you remember Mrs Judge?? she was an old alky and pure evil.

Submitted by: Angela Coyne
Glasgow, Scotland
21/02/08
Email: dizzyangie@hotmail.co.uk
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To view the picture mentioned in my previous email the correct name of the site is flickr.com Search for johncurrie88 and hopefully there you will find a folder named childhood. My apologies for my lack of computer savvy. If you still have no luck drop me an email and I will send you a low res copy. John

Submitted by: John Currie
Geneva, Switzerland
21/02/08
Email: 2jojncurrie@gmail.com
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Auld Glasgow Biddy or agnes if u hiv changed yer name again thanx fer readin ma inelgible posts even the wans u underston but if the paragraph wis too much fer yer head jist let it fly on bye like i say ti u bye bye ten quid

Submitted by: Ten Quid
Oz
21/02/08
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COL i knew 3 of them wans only because u repeated them! arent u a lucky boy awe the free advertising u are getting long may it continue! some folk just dont know any advert is a good advert when it comes ti readin ther noses get a bit out of joint n they jist hivti buy a copy i even got ma moth eaten wallet out n sent for ma copy read it 3 times in hospital after that last post whos game ti say yer no a true scot gorbalonian same thing! ten quid

Submitted by: Ten Quid
Oz
21/02/08
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Hi, I was just wondering if anyone know's my old boyfriend, Bert MC Kinnley, we were great friends, would love to hear from him many years ago in Easterhouse. I was born in the Gorbal's in 1948, 80 Kidson St. My ma and family moved to Easterhouse, I maybe was 12 years old then. I wish I had married wee Bert, I think of him often. I moved to the USA in 1970. I was in Scotland a few years ago for a short time, and it was so great to be with my big brother and sisters. Many tks.

Submitted by: Betty Fennell
Kings Mountain, USA
20/02/08
Email: efennell@carolina.rr.com
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I remember going to baraland and waiting to be asked for a dance my freinds would wait for a guy to ask are you dancing? The girls would answer no its just the way im standing, or if we were at the seating area they would get there own back by asking are you dancing and if you said yes they would say good ill have your seat. The gorbals was my hometown right on the gorbals cross and i miss it a lot but what i like most off all your great memories its something that stays with you. To all you lovely gorbals people and everyone who uses this page lots of luck and good health

Submitted by: Bridie
Irvine, Ayrshire
20/02/08
Email: b.taylor8@btinternet.com
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Just to show no hard feelings Ten Quid - how about a wee joke? A Glasgow woman goes to the dentist and settles down in the chair. 'Comfy?' asks the dentist. 'Govan,' she replies. Good luck with your recuperation!

Submitted by: Auld Glasgow Biddy
Brighton, England
20/02/08
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Correction on the wee bit about the Glasgow map (05/02/08) I stated that South Portland St. became Moffat St. This is incorrect, South York St became Moffat St. Sorry about that, I suppose yese were a' lyin awake at night wonderin'

Submitted by: Davie Graham
Edmonton, Canada
20/02/08
Email: mcscrum@telus.net
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Somebody asked recently what songs I was influenced by and I was thinking about Matt McGin...he wrote brilliant GLasgow songs like Bingo Bella and... I was Born Ten Thousand Years ago...also the very emotional (i think it's called) Magic Shadow Show..they're on his Two Heided Man Album or Greatest Hits and if you are far away from Scotland they will soon get your emotions going. (Music Scotland has them in stock) also have a listen to the Gorbals very own Alex Harvey...especially when he sings "Framed" and does it in a brilliant Gorbals accent! Frankie Miller is another Glasgow guy to listen to.. as is a new young guy called Paolo Nutini who is going to be a superstar...although from Paisley he sings in a brilliant Glasgow accent..listen to his song Rewind...great! col

Submitted by: Colin MacFarlane
Glasgow and Ponty, UK
20/02/08
Email: colinmacuk@yahoo.com
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Enjoying your site very much. I had an email from a gentleman called Boyle or Doyle in Australia or NZ, but my husband (he's from Toonheid) accidentally deleted it before I could reply, so my apologies to him. Isabel Nimmo

Submitted by: Isobel Nimmo
Falkirk, Scotland
19/02/08
Email: isabel.nimmo@blueyonder.co.uk
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Andrea, Big dose o' Macdonalds came frae 388 Lawmoor St. don't suppose this will mean much but will mibbe kindle somethin'?

Submitted by: Anonymous
19/02/08
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Does anyone know what happened to the edgars QE flats?

Submitted by: Molly Burns
Canada
19/02/08
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To Amelia - Yes you are right, it is disgrace what the have done to Oatlands. Wiped out a whole community, tore down all the lovely red sandstone buildings. then left empty spaces for years. Stole the park-right where the sauny pon used to be to build private housing. I remember well the lovely flower beds facing on to Rutherglen road. But the ducksie still exists. Now there was a bit of a Gorbals joke. I never did see anything else but swans there when I was a kid. Folks will remember the fishing for the baggie minnies. A Gorbals sport! A wee bamboo fishing net and jeely jar with string wound around to make a handle. Still visit the ducksie with my grandchildren. Some days the men take out there wee boats to sale as they have done for a long time. Members of my family have visited the park for about 90 years. Cheers all

Submitted by: Wee Wummin Too
Glasgow, Scotland
18/02/08
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To Ten Quid - Yup I remember some of those sayings. "It'll no be that in the morning" As a kid this used to confuse me. Still does "Are you talking to me, chewing a brick or digesting a building?" I think that was meant as the height of sarcasm. Come on folks keep the pot boiling-what is your favourites?

Submitted by: Wee Wummin Too
Glasgow, Scotland
18/02/08
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Thanx to all who wished me gid health n i kin assure u all it will take more than a quad by-pass to take me out more like a crackin gid nite wi a gid lookin lass say like ma wee wife betty n im no a crawler jist a wee tadd feert o her n her blunt scissors! remember the red bellied black snake? she also has tweezers! ten quid

Submitted by: Ten
Quid
18/02/08
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Webmaster Note: FAO T Craig - Can you please contact me directly regarding your previous posting? I would be interested to know how Yahoo were able to disclose this information.

Submitted by: Webmaster
17/02/08
Email: webmaster@gsera.org.uk
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I have had a few letters on this site from friends and from people knowing my family, which makes this site worthwhile, I truly love the humour and it has brought me enjoyment. For all the good genuine people on this site I say thank you, alas I have discovered that there is some not so genuine, I was sent several letters on the site which were not so nice, I am thick skinned and took it on the chin, but I am sure in my heart I did no wrong other than voice my opinion. I decided to send friendly e-mails to the characters, Haryyman, Jmcdonald, babycumbie,and so on, and discovered there were no such persons I contacted their e-mail company Yahoo and found these people were made up, maybe you can all try this to prove I am correct, its very sad, as I love this site. If you wish to know I can provide you through information from Yahoo who has been doing this, I write this to keep this site good we dont need people doing this. Please lets carry on making this the best site. Big Tam Craig

Submitted by: T Craig
Tollcross, Glasgow
17/02/08
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I have a picture I would like to share taken around 1952/3. at 320 lawmoor st. I know nothing of it's history, only that I am in it. I spent the first 5 years of my life in the Gorbals and am curious to know if anyone else has a copy of this picture and how it came to be take and by whom. The picture can be viewed on flicker at (all one word) johncurrie88

Submitted by: John Currie
Geneva, Switzerland
17/02/08
Email: 2johncurrie@gmail.com
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gorbals,,,,,,,,till i die, ha!ha! best years of my life,,,,,St.lukes boys guild, St.johns, Holyrood, 1958-1974

Submitted by: Billy Finlay
Glasgow, Scotland
16/02/08
Email: billyeff2003@yahoo.co.uk
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FAO Babycumbie tried your email but it says you dont have an account there? I was born in Calder street, now live in Allison St, went to Strathbungo, worked in insurance, went to uni studied Law, worked in the Home Office, back in Insurance I have been round the clock and I am real and entitled to my opinion, as an educated person.

Submitted by: I Cleary
Govanhill, Glasgow
16/02/08
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Good day Mr. Ten Quid. Read your most recent anecdote and actually enjoyed reading your comments as they were the most legible you have written on this forum! I am extremely proud of my birth place and upbringing, but I repeat, I do not need to write with a Glasgwegian accent to be recognised as Scottish! If I had a pound or a dollar for each time I've been told I have a lovely accent, I would be a millionaire. Incidentally, what exactly is Scotticism?

Submitted by: Auld Glasgow Biddy
Brighton, England
16/02/08
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To Ten Quid...you are absolutely right...here are some phrases you might just remember. col "He looks like a half shut knife" - describing someone who looks depressed. "Am Ah right, am Ah wrang" - literally "Am I right or am I wrong" but usually said in a rhetorical fashion which is really expecting agreement. "Punny eccy" - used by school children to describe a punishment exercise or written piece of work for wrong-doing in class. "Polomint city" - the slang name for East Kilbride, one of the first "new towns" built outside of Glasgow. The planners provided many, many traffic roundabouts - which looked like a well known circular, mint "sweetie" "Hameldaeme" - at first sight, not a phrase, but pronounce it more slowly and you will see/hear it stands for "Hame will do me" - once a popular response to the question "where are you going for your summer holidays?" before half of Scotland went to Spain for their holidays (sorry, "vacation"). "Mak a kirk or a mill o' it" - make a kirk/church or a mill of it, or "the choice is yours". "Steps and stairs" - a large family, evenly spaced out, so that when a family photo is taken with the children sequenced by age, they look like a set of stairs. "Doon the Dee on a digestive" - this is the Abedonian equivalent of "Do you think I came up the River Clyde on a banana boat?" in other words, do you think I'm daft? "Auld claes and cauld porritch" - when you are out of money, particularly after spending a lot on Christmas or a holiday, it's back to basics with "old clothes and cold porridge". "Days here and there" - people who could not afford to go away on their summer holiday/vacation would often have odd days here and there. "Dinna droon the miller" - don't put too much water in the whisky (the miller being the supplier of the grain which went in the whisky). "By-the-way" - Billy Connolly has made this Glaswegian addendum to sentences well known around the world. "That wis a right stupid thing tae dae, by-the-way" or indeed any other comment or observation can have this phrase added to it. So much so that other parts of Scotland sometimes refer to Glaswegians as "By-the-ways." "Furryboots are ye fae?" - this is an Aberdonian phrase, by-the-way. Translated, it means "Where abouts are you from?" It is so identified with Aberdeen that Aberdonians have been known to be called "Furryboots." "Keep a calm sooch" - the 'ch' in sooch is pronounced as in 'loch' and the word "sooch" means "wind". So the phrase is used to encourage someone to keep calm or hold their tongue. "Away in a dwalm" - a 'dwalm' is a daydream so someone who is away in a dwalm is certainly not concentrating on the job in hand! "He's awa on the ran-dan" - having a riotous night out on the town. "Twa bubbles aff the centre" - derived from the bubbles on a spirit level, someone who is "twa bubbles aff the centre" is regarded as a bit simple or stupid. "He wis fairly gaun his dinger" - he lost his temper "Ahm spewin' feathers" - I'm very thirsty "He's goat mair degrees than a thermometer" - he's very clever (and has the "varsity" or university degrees to prove it) "You're at yer auntie's hoose" - help yourself and tuck in "Whit are ye mollachin aboot" - why are you wandering about aimlessly? Said to derive in the North-East of Scotland from the mole, the animal whose mole-hills pop up in random places. "Haud up yer heid like a thistle" - hold up your head like a thistle - and be a proud Scot! "Ah couldnae care a docken" - although a docken (a broad-leaved weed) is useful for reducing the effect of stinging nettles, anything which is "nae worth a docken" is said to be worthless. "It's not worth a tinker's curse" is another phrase describing something which is of no value. "A tongue that would clip clouts" - literally speech which would leave a cloth in tatters, describes someone who is very abrasive and gives a good account of themselves in an arguement. "Awa ye go" - not really telling someone to go away but used to register disbelief. "Hale jing bang" - everything, the whole lot. "A fly cup of tea" - in this case "fly" means illicit or surreptitious. On the other hand, if you are "fly for" someone, you are too wise to be taken in by them. Occasionally, the word reverts to its meaning as an insect as in "Let that fly stick tae the wa'" - say no more about a topic. "There's aye a something" - a phrase which is frequently used in the North-East and indicates an acceptance of adversity. Recount a catalogue of disasters and tragedy to someone in that part of Scotland and a response of "There's aye a something" is quite likely. "He wis fairly gaun his dinger" - he lost his temper "Ahm spewin' feathers" - I'm very thirsty "He's goat mair degrees than a thermometer" - he's very clever (and has the "varsity" or university degrees to prove it) "You're at yer auntie's hoose" - help yourself and tuck in "Whit are ye mollachin aboot" - why are you wandering about aimlessly? Said to derive in the North-East of Scotland from the mole, the animal whose mole-hills pop up in random places.

Submitted by: Colin MacFarlane
Glasgow and Ponty, UK
16/02/08
Email: colinmacuk@yahoo.com
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Hi, John Hoskie, yes I knew all the Johnstones. There was May, Nan, Betty, Margaret Billy, Terry & George. Nanny was my Mother's friend and her husband was Alex who worked for Robert Maxwell Hauliers. Raymond was young Nan's son their surname was Flexney. I was born in 247 in the close (well it was really the back shop). We moved to 211 when my granny Died she was Big Lizzies friend. We lost touch with the Jonstones after Nanny died they all moved to Toryglen and Margaret moved to Irvine with the overspill. I saw Billy once when he worked for Howard Bedding that must be 25 yrs ago but nothing since. You could try the phone book as Flexney is an unusual name and now that I think of May had a son called Raymond too their name was polish I think ZYBILOVITCH spelling may not be great but I hope this helps cheers Nan

Submitted by: Nan Cameron (Bell)
Glasgow, Scotland
15/02/08
Email: partickbelle@hotmail.co.uk
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When I was a wee boy at the start of WWII, my mother used to take me to the clinic near Eginton Toll to collect my bottle of concentrated orange juice. It was so thick it would hardly come out of the bottle. I know it seems a daft thing to recall, but I find myself trying to remember exactly where that clinic was. If you were going into town from the direction of the Plaza it was one or two streets beyond the Toll on the left, then you went round the back. The building itself was grey (but what wasn't?) and inside it looked like a large church hall with everyone milling around. Anyone else remember this?

Submitted by: Bobby
Glasgow, Scotland
15/02/08
Email: rodger@anshiro.com
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I was wondering if anyone out there remembers John McDonald from 345 Lawmoor Street? John was born 1909 and had 2 sisters, i'm trying to find out if he stayed in Glasgow or moved to London. i'm also trying to find out who he was married to. Thanks in advance to anyone who can help.

Submitted by: Andrea
Canada
15/02/08
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HAIL SCOTTICISMS - The question we are being asked to consider is, "Should we teach Scots in the English class?" I would like to turn it round and ask, "What should we teach in the language class?" The area of education we are talking about relates to imparting skill in reading, writing, talking and listening. Obviously this should relate to the language or languages used by the pupils in every aspect of their everyday lives. To try to pretend that, in Scotland, this involves only English is completely out of keeping with the facts. Most Scots children, in common with most Scots people, are bilingual, for we have more than one language at our disposal and most of us make use of this. Some of us speak Scots and English, others, Gaelic and English; I also know of some who can speak all three; there are those who speak Scots and Urdu or Scots and Punjabi, or Scots and Chinese; even English incomers find their children picking up Scots, along with their English. Of course there are the Scots who fondly imagine they speak nothing but English, but whose speech is riddled with what used to be called Scotticisms, which nearly two centuries of sustained campaigning have failed to eradicate. Of course many people speak Scots badly, because no one has ever taught them how to speak it well. That seems to me to be a fairly good reason for including it in the curriculum. so to the folk who say they dont like the way we right n talk feel free too add your own scotticisms yourselves--yer bums oot thu windea==telling lies-cum own git aff==are u coming on or are u getting off? iv keeched masel==i may have done a jobby!noo go fur it==now u try it! ten quid

Submitted by: Ten Quid
Oz
15/02/08
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Can anyone remember anything about my dad tommy traynor his dad had the furniture shop in the gorbals?

Submitted by: Martin Traynor
Glasgow, Scotland
14/02/08
Email: mtelectrical@blueyonder.co.uk
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About my late mothers family the mcavoys. Her name was Beatrice, sisters margaret, isa and Mary. Brothers patrick, neilly all of them gone now.

Submitted by: Patrick McAdam
Glasgow, Scotland
14/02/08
Email: p1950@hotmail.com
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What a great site. To colin mac farlane i enjoyed it well done it is great to see a gorbals boy doing well for himself hope to see the movie! Went to st francis then bonnies in 59 i remember big scud miss mcdonald i lived with my granny at 98 nicolson st we lived facing the bond. A lot of happy memories in that street hi to mick karen and boys.

Submitted by: Margaret Connolly
Glasgow, Scotland
14/02/08
Email: maggie3007@hotmail.co.uk
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Fao of any ex-pats who are missing their square sausage here is a recipe for you if you wish to make it Ingredients: 2 lbs Ground/minced Beef 2 lbs Ground Pork 3 Cups Fine Bread Crumbs 2 tsp Pepper 2 tsp Nutmeg 3 tsp Coriander 3 tsp Salt 1 Cup of water. Method: The beef and pork should not be too lean or the sausage may be too dry. Mix really well by hand then place in an oblong pan about 10" x 4" x 3". You might need two pans. Place in the freezer for a little while till it's just starting to set. Remove it and cut them to the thicknes you like and put them into freezer bags and put them back in the freezer. When required, defrost and fry in a little fat or oil until brown and cooked through. Cheers Amelia

Submitted by: Amelia McKinlay
Glasgow, Scotland
14/02/08
Email: ameliamckinlay@msn.com
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Nan (Bell) Cameron, thanks for your help. Billy and Terry Johnson lived in 247 Thistle Street, they had a sister Maggie, and Betty, Yes your right about Jock Weir he was Mae Obagies boyfriend. Did you remember Raymond he was ages with me, do you know if any of them are still about? I met Billy about ten or so year ago in Govanhill, his mum was Nanny Johnson. Any news about the folk around 247 would be appreciated, did you live there? Thanks John

Submitted by: John Hoskie
Preston, England
14/02/08
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Can anyone help im trying to trace any family of my late father william clark i know he lived at sometime in the gorbals but was born in maryhill 1934. He had a sister mary clark born 1933 a nephew alistair b1959c and a neice alison b1967c i also know at sometime he drove trams in glasgow any help would be great thanks

Submitted by: Tina
Stirling, Scotland
14/02/08
Email: t.clark13@btinternet.com
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Can anyone help im trying to trace any family of my late father william clark i know he lived at sometime in the gorbals but was born in maryhill 1934. He had a sister mary clark born 1933 a nephew alistair b1959c and a neice alison b1967c i also know at sometime he drove trams in glasgow any help would be great thanks

Submitted by: Tina
Stirling, Scotland
14/02/08
Email: t.clark13@btinternet.com
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Would anyone know of a Jessie Daly born in the Gorbols in 1939? I think they lived in Adelphi St. We were great childhood pals and I would love to know how she is. Jean McGowan

Submitted by: Jean McGowan
Melbourne, Australia
13/02/08
Email: ameliamckinlay@msn.com
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Holmes the butchers? geez you're no feirt boy admittin' ye worked there ah mind they opened their shop doon in Waddell St queues for miles aye noo we know who tae blame fur them sausages wis some stuff they selt still ye get whit ye pey fur an we're aw still here!

Submitted by: Anonymous
13/02/08
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Hi Doris you wouldn't know the oatlands if you came home. They have taken part of Richmond park away to build houses the part nearest McNeil St/Waterside St. I always thought that the parks in Glasgow belonged to the people of Glasgow. When I pass it on the bus I could greet as many a day I passed taking my children there. All the houses are nearly all away in the oatlands and the buses now do a detour up Polmadie road right up to where the BOC was and then down to where "Bonnies" was and then onto Caledonia Rd. I also ran about Charleys the cafe but I think I am a bit older than you. We used to run about with Tam Riley, Tommy O'Brien, Joe Mulligan, Jerry McKinlay whom I married. Do you remember Hugh McAdam who used to take photos of us all he came from Commercial Road. Amelia

Submitted by: Amelia McKinlay
Glasgow, Scotland
13/02/08
Email: ameliamckinlay@msn.com
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Hello again to you all, i am still searching for information on my grandad who was Patrick James Boyle born in 1908 in Glasgow. Parents were Francis Boyle And Rose Montford. My grandad died on the 6 May 1946 at 10 1/2 Eglington st Gorbals, he was married to Mary Ann Kilkie and other address i have for them are 4 Roukenburn St Thornliebank around 1933 and 132 South Portland St around 1938-9. This is the only information i have on my grandad, i never even seen a photo of him. So please will you all have a long think and see if you have any recollection of this family as they just cannot dissapear. Thanks to you all....Tommy Boyle

Submitted by: Tommy Boyle
Leicestershire, England
13/02/08
Email: thomasboil@tiscali.co.uk
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I am looking for the Miller Family.. Andrew and Annie nee Downie, my grandmother was born in Errol St, Glasgow in 1923, which Parish, School would be close to this address at that time? Anyone that has information on the Miller Family please contact me. Andrew and Annie were married in Gorbals in 1913. Andrew was a Glass/Bottle Blower by trade Andrew and Annie had children (Girls) Annie, Jean Elizbeth known as betty, (boys) Andrew and Jackie.

Submitted by: Charmaine
Mackay, Australia
13/02/08
Email: charming2@optusnet.com
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.au I am trying to find information on my brother Hugh Gallacher from salisbury street he died 29 january we lost touch but we were told to late that he was sick and by that time it was too late to help.

Submitted by: May
Glasgow, Scotland
13/02/08
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Hi to Mick Connolly. Mick, I too "ran with gangs" along with my boyfriend for a wee while before we married and had a beautiful family. Although ashamed of this fact, I have not let it run my life and neither did my first husband. Your advice to Ryan is clear and strong and I hope he reads the message we are giving him. There is no glory in gangs, only lonlieness and death. Good luck to you for turning your life around and for the work you are doing now! Auld Glasgow Biddy.

Submitted by: Auld Glasgow Biddy
Brighton, England
12/02/08
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Hello Tina ah think am a tad ahead of you in years, but I did go to St Bonaventures but was out of school around let me see would it be early fifties I have lived in New Jersey Kearny to be exact then down the shore to Altantic highlands, family still all there. In our close, we had the martins three brother, the kellys, the currans rankin oh and Bislands then there was the Boles, the Steels, Boydes thats about as many as I can remember. but I think it might be a wee bit before your time.,oh and thanks for asking. Did anyone ever try to make the dumpling cake I sent in? So nice to meet you Tina Doris

Submitted by: Doris McIntyre
Slo, USA
12/02/08
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F.A.O Tam Craig (Craigie) Yes I knew your gran in as much as a kid knew anyone who was older than with lots of RESPECT You knew my Brother Aly McLeod Who passed away a couple of years ago Do you know what happened to the Campbells? I've been In South Africa for 30 years came back to the U.K. 6 years ago thats why this site is such a grrrrrrrreat place to be brings back such wonderful memories I love the patter thanks everyone

Submitted by: Isabella Henriques
Rotherham, England
12/02/08
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F.A.O John Hoskie, Lizzie Baillie was not Jock Weir's aunt he was lizzie's daughter May's Boyfriend and was it 247 Thistle St the Johnstone's lived? if so she was Billy and Terry's aunt.

Submitted by: Nan Cameron (Bell)
Glasgow, Scotland
12/02/08
Email: partickbelle@hotmail.co.uk
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My name is Mary Heaney nee Rae, I was born in 176 Rutherglen Road, but I was brought up in Pollock, I have two sister's Jean and Anne, I also have three brother's Billy George and Alex, we are all over the world now.

Submitted by: Heaney
Glasgow, Scotland
11/02/08
Email: heaney1888@hotmail.co.uk
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For Doris McIntyre - 9 Snowdon Street was the tenements beside Waterside Street. What were some of the names of the people who lived in your close? What school did you go to and what years?

Submitted by: Tina Kerr (Shields)
Point Pleasant NJ, USA
11/02/08
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FAO Tam You can contact me at glasgow university.

Submitted by: J.McDonald
Glasgow, Scotland
11/02/08
Email: j.mcdonald@yahoo.co.uk
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Any workers fae r.a. homes butchers in lawmoor st in the 50s an mid 60s still kickin about; Mima caldwell, lucy reed, driver nicknamed simba, willie cranston, john mccafferty, pat mcconville etc. We were a cheery bunch i was a sausage boy at that time we worked hard but had a lot o fun hopin tae hear fae any o the old team neilly mac.

Submitted by: Neil MacLean
Glasgow, Scotland
10/02/08
Email: neil@neilmaclean.wanadoo.co.uk
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Hi again, still trying to catch up with anyone who was 'up oor close' in 380 Rutherglen Rd. Creamers, Bonnar's, McCormack's, Bell's during the 30's early 40's?

Submitted by: Jean Fairie M
elbourne, Australia
10/02/08
Email: gorbals@aapt.net.au
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Hi willie, young matt here. Just to let you know rita and all the family are fine. Do you know chic, alec and my dad all passed away? James rodden and james foley are still going strong. All the best, matt

Submitted by: Matt Burke
Glasgow, Scotland
09/02/08
Email: d.burke72@yahoo.co.uk
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Tam Craig were you once or are still the same tam who was married to a rita mcnair?

Submitted by: Myra
Glasgow, Lanarkshire
09/02/08
Email: weemick@btinternet.com
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For Tina in N Jersey we lived in 2 Snowdon st but ah cannie remember were 9 was, would that be in the Corporation hooses or the auld hooses going up ti Rutherglen rd? Your name sounds familiar, but at this age lucky if ah remember ma ain hauf the time. Hey wee wummin terrible when people take life to serious and you off course no we have to expect it, once you say some thing there is always someone who will take it, disect it no matter whit yi say! Oh and gled yi stull hiv yir coman sense. Ten Quid gled that you are feeling okey but ah no yir no a huner percent, this shyte takes a lot oot o yi. Artie says happy to hear yir still around `AND A BIG HELLO TO EVERYONE OOT THERE AND RYAN YOU GET A GRIP AND GET OAN WI IT. DAM

Submitted by: Doris McIntyre (aka Austin)
Slo, USA
09/02/08
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To young Ryan who spoke about the gangs, the Cumbie and collecting scars. You know Ryan I resisted writing this for a while but then gave in. I too was a bit like you in the late sixties and early seventies. We lived in waddell Court right next to the Clyde. So that meant that we were the first stop for many of the Gangs from the Calton and north of the city. The Tongs and the San Toi to name just two. I was caught up with it and was involved in many tussles with them. Then there was the booze and the drugs to contend with. My auld Da told me one time it saddened him to see so many young boys with scars on their faces he said it was never that bad even when he was a boy. Someone once said that it isn't the guy with the scars you need to worry about it is the guy who gave them the scars you need to watch out for. So there is no honour in having scars. Having been caught up in it for years and being in and having to take enforced holidays at her Majesties holiday lodges from time to time I decided that the only way for me to survive was to get out of it all. That was what I did and now work with young people caught up in drugs and gangs. It's brilliant to walk up the street without having to look over your shoulder all the time. Great to have a decent house and garden and a family to fill it. I left school without any qualifications but am able to support a family and buy them a decent house to live in. I know about loyalty and all that Ryan but all the guys I was loyal too are dead all of them taken by drugs. Most of them were very well known in the Gorbals but now they are a distant memory. So you could do that as well Ryan, get out of it and do something with your life, fight for a bit of happiness in your life because the only two choices open to you is you might die or end up in that big holiday lodge at Riddrie for a long long time. Good luck to you son I hope you do okay but the way you are is certain to screw you up leave it alone and move away if you have too like I did. Hope this isn't too heavy for you but I grew up believing that the Gorbals folk always looked after their own. So we are trying to look after you. Us older ones who have done it all before you and know it is a mugs game. Hope yo hear from you. mick.

Submitted by: Mick Connolly,
Scotland
09/02/08
Email: weemick@btinternet.com
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I was in the gorbals 1956 to 1960 I lived in Lawmoor st my close was next to a wee sweety shop the (McKenzies) my memories are disjointed: a place that made barrels: my ma looking out our bedroom window on a friday night watching the teddy boys fighting: the gasman coming round lighting the lamps on our stairs: a green pea souper fog: sparking my boots on the cobble stones: having my left hand tied behind my back at St francis school so i had to use my right hand: MB chocolate bars: being sent to a shop that gave you a take away mince and totties on a plate for a shilling: jiggs cartoon in the daily record: playing in middens there was always a lucky midden: shouting up to my ma for a jeely piece which was thrown out the window from the top floor: short back and sides: washing in the belfast sink: once a week zinc bath in front of the open fire hate being last: a yoyo a torch a packet of spangles and a toy lorry for xmas: the toilet on the landing: a total eclipse shit myself! no one told use about it went completly dark at 4'oclock thought the end of the world had arrived!

Submitted by: Allen Corcoran
Liverpool, England
08/02/08
Email: corcjo@aol.com
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I was fairly interested in reading comments made by j.mcdonald Lecturer, I thought I would email him but found to my annoyance there is no such person, I checked with Yahoo and he does not have an account or even exist, it seems someone is putting damming letters onto the site, I thought why would people do this? so I looked at similar damming letters and checked their emails and not one of them exist, one in particular from haryyman almost the same context! We are all Jock Tamsons bairns, lets air our thoughts from our own hearts and we might get somewhere, let folks have their thoughts without this gang warfare, I am 61 years old and a gorbals man, I dont think the person who is doing this is very decent at all. Iain

Submitted by: Iain Cleary
Glasgow, Scotland
08/02/08
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Let's have enough of the serious stuff - how about a Scottish joke? What did the Siamese twins from Gorbals call their autobiography? Oor Wullie.

Submitted by: Auld Biddy
Brighton, England
08/02/08
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Did anyone ever play kiss kiss or torture, or kick the can? Anyone have a bogey? made from a wooden orange box, a plank and a roller skate! Answer to Munro, yip I stayed at Abbotsford place, and I remember you, my old pal!! How are you? We had a few laughs Im still round the bend Billy.

Submitted by: Billy Malcolm
Easterhouse, Glasgow
08/02/08
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Hi, it is good to see mr ten Q back on form, loved your story about the butcher and wee wummin too. I love reading your stories as well, you are right it is good to have a laugh,life is to short! Anyway keep up the good work, oh yes if anyone remembers my dads family i would love to hear from you - Barney Davis lived in Portugal Street. Take care pat

Submitted by: Pat Davis
London, Islington
08/02/08
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Ten Quid, hope your feeling much better, I see by the mail that your well known on the site and you lived in Thistle street, but not sure what end you lived at, do you remember Jock Weir that played for Celtic? He lived on the corner of Thistle street and Caley Road where the bookies was, which his auntie Lizzie Bailey owned, I lived up that close with the Obaghies, Johnstones Billy and Terry. Do you remember big Mick Hall, Davie Roberts, Hadgy Holmes, I left thistle street when I was 16 sadest day of my life! If you remember any of the characters and have any stories please tell me. John Hoskie.

Submitted by: John Hoskie
Preston, England
08/02/08
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To all who have stood up for Colin and his book, I applaude you. As an aspiring writer I am a little annoyed at the comments that have been made about his writing. It is not easy to sit down and write a book, be lucky enough to get it published, and then be scrutinized by your own people. Its enough to put me off, but my love of writing wont allow me to stop. I am not from the Gorbals although I was born in Scotland and left when I was 10. I love to read all the stories on this board. My mother and her sisters were from Mathieson St in the Gorbals and my father from Tradeston. The story I am working on is based on the tales I have heard about my family growing up in the gorbals (hilarous stories from my mum that I have heard since a wee girl). I hope if I am lucky enough to be published, I have more support for the accomplishment than to be ran down as Colin has been, keep up the positive everyone. Cheers M.Lewry

Submitted by: M Lewry
Vancouver, Canada
08/02/08
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To ian cleary...i also live in govanhill and as far as i can see colin's real gorbals story has got it spot on...what did you want him to write...another molly weir type book...shoes were for sunday? i was brought up at the same time as colin and was there when a lot of the incidents happened in the gorbals...by the way is ian cleary your name or are you another person hiding behind that name? i met colin recently in the brazen head and he spends a lot of time in the gorbals...he is, unlike some of the critics on this site, a REAL Gorbals guy. I can't wait for the follow up!

Submitted by: Babycumbie
Glasgow, UK
07/02/08
Email: babycumbie@yahoo.co.uk
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Does anyone know any families who lived in Dunmure Street, Gorbals around 1964 - 1968?

Submitted by: Glasgow Biddy
Brighton, England
06/02/08
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Doris ok i found ma lungs in the local butchers shop n while i wis ther i said i will have one o them brains new heart new clean lungs as well so out the shop a did go hoppin and skippin only fer the local farmer ti shout here sheepy sheepy com on behind this wa like the nice wee lamb i had become a did as a wis told "ache help och naw FN SORE" as i stole away while he lit his pipe i hobbled back ti the butchers n said swap this brain fer that wan n throw in wan o them big black puddins as well so efter a we while i left the shop kickin the dust up gruntin n snortin n bawlin here fermar here fermar never mind the wa any port in a storm will do efter an hour a lit ma pipe n the fermar wis cursin n wishin he wis a vegitarian n i wis mooooin fer the fermar ti hiv a black puddin breakfast.

Submitted by: Ten Quid
Oz
06/02/08
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FAO lecturer J.mcdonald I twice replied to you on your e-mail submitted but found out frm Yahoo you dont even exist What game are you playing? This site is for friendly people like me meeting new friends and old ones, I love it but people like you spoil it for others I inserted my e mail to you but of course it came back as yahoo have never heard of you, Please allow people to enjoy this site. I along with half a dozen persons on this site are aware of what is going on and we hope to inform the web master shortly. We are mostly elderly Gorbals people enjoying this wonderful site so let us be. Thank you

Submitted by: Tam Craig
Glasgow, Scotland
06/02/08
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It's 4am and I am at work. Something made me think of the Gorbals where I grew up and I found this website. I have been living in the states for fourteen years. I went to St Bonaventures in the 70's and St John Bosco secondary school in the 80's. I lived at 9 Snowdon Street and have a twin brother Peter. Looking for any old friends, Cathy Cunningham, Claudette Alexander, Angie Corcoran.

Submitted by: Tina Kerr (Shields)
Point Pleasant NJ, USA
06/02/08
Email: JFKerr@comcast.net
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Thanks to the folk who stood up for me. Craigie is as Craigie does. But like everyone on the site he is entitled to his opinions. I am now just a bit bored with it all. Let's have more of the cheery stuff. A laugh lightens up the day and we all need that. More is achieved with honey than with vinegar my wee granny used to say. She was Irish as it so happens-big, big family and a hard life. She could light up a room with her presence and her patter. Ten Quid look after yourself get some codliver oil and malt doon ye. That and castor oil was the auld remedy for anything from a sore throat to a sore belly in the Gorbals. Just had a wicked thought did ye think it might cure grumpiness? Thought I might send a case of it to one or two people on the site....... Wee Wummin Too

Submitted by: Wee Wummin Too
Glasgow, Scotland
06/02/08
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Wee item of interest to those long gone from The Gorbals, I was back in Glasgow last November and found a map for sale in Smith's Bookstore. It is entitled "Glasgow 1929 SG10. Cost 3.50 Pounds. Available via www.rpasmith.co.uk. The streets are as they were in my boyhood, although some of the names were obviously changed. Half of South portland St became Moffat St., Govan St. became Ballater St. The bottom half of Florence St. was Rose St. The name changes must have been made during the early Thirties, but layout of the area is as I remember it.

Submitted by: Davie Graham
Edmonton, Canada
05/02/08
Email: mcscrum@telus.net
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FAO Harry mann husband of wee Wu Mann I presume otherwise it all seems ridiculous ha ha ha, anyhow civility disnae cost ye a penny, but yer quite right you have got ta stick up for yer WuMANN Yer Missus in other words. Life is too short Mr. Mann and I take kindly ta my life its precious. Coming fae the Gorbals I get straight tae the point, if you dont like it....Enjoy talking and making friends on this wonderful site, its soo much easier for the auld ticker. I have met a few auld friends and even someone who knew my granny from Eglinton street, can't be bad, now you cant stop a good man from talkin!!

Submitted by: Tam Craig
Tollcross, Glasgow
05/02/08
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Isabela Henriques - Yes my Granny lived in Eglinton Street did you know her I am sure you did and maybe me too cheers Tam

Submitted by: Tam Craig
Tollcross, Glasgow
05/02/08
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I`m trying to piece together My fathers Glasgow life. He was Born 1924 in Bridge Street His name was Robert Craig. His father was Robert Craig and His Mothers maiden name was Margaret Higgins. The ancestors names are bernard Higgins, Annie o`connell, Hugh Graig and Mckendick, Houston, Giblan, Kyle and Surgineor. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Submitted by: Maureen Hoyland
Dorset, England
05/02/08
Email: maureenhoyland@btinternet.com
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Your right Alex not many pubs near Barries Garage but we used to get off the bus between the bridges to go to the Railway club

Submitted by: Jimmy G Sarnia
Ont, Canada
05/02/08
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I had good n bad memories, went to st francis primary then holyrood, my father pat ridge grew up there too, until he died aged 34 in 1980, if anyone knew him id be gratefull to here, i was only 7 when he died, he is buried with his mum n da in dalbeth. Also anyone remember mr kenny, miss gibson, teachers fae st francis primary, im 34, went 2 school wi paul clark, gary coyle, marlene hewit, angela mcfarlane, geraldine gallacher etc, I AM RIDGEY, i had a brother paul ridge died aug 1997.

Submitted by: AnneMarie Ridge
Glasgow, Scotland
05/02/08
Email: catherineblake74@btinternet.com
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Is the Billy Malcolm from Easterhouse originally from Abbotsford Place?

Submitted by: Alan Munro
Falkirk, Scotland
04/02/08
Email: alangmunro@hotmail.com
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To Tam Craig We all have our reasons for our "monicker" You never know I could be an old girlfriend! Only joking. I certainly could be considered old. But I have still got plenty of Gorbals cheek. Cheers WEE WUMMIN TOO

Submitted by: Wee Wummin Too
Glasgow, Scotland
04/02/08
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Looking for someone by the name of Rita Barlow. She was a friend of my mothers many years ago around 1960's. My mothers maiden name is Dyer.

Submitted by: C Walker
Gorbals, Glasgow
01/02/08
Email: WALKER-c11@sky.com
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I posted a message on 2007 to see if anyone knew my dad Ronnie dewar but have had no luck, if anyone can tell me any stories about him i would be very grateful. He got killed in 1988, his nickname at school was soapy. I hope someone can help me.

Submitted by: Nicola Dewar
Glasgow, Scotland
01/02/08
Email: nicoladewar@btinternet.com
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FAO Pat Carmichael wit number in cavendish st did ye stie at a stied at 56 heres some names fur ye; fletchers, robertsons hallidays, huttons, grants, kieths, o donnells, mulligans, mc sporrans, gilmours, bonnars, birrels and porters. Hope sum a these names mite jog yer memory. Pat ma auld man wis nown as dad (jimmy) n ma maw wis (wee susie) fletcher keep n touch pat awra best the jannie

Submitted by: James Fletcher
Glasgow, Scotland
01/02/08
Email: jimthejannie@btinternet.com
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